Trump Defense Secretary Tells Fox News Former President ‘Threatens Our Democracy’


Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense under former President Trump, appeared on Monday Special feature with Bret Baierto promote his new book, A sacred oath. In the book, Esper details some of the behind-the-scenes happenings that would be shocking if they came from another administration. For example, Esper claims that Trump wanted to call in active duty military to shoot protesters in the summer of 2020.

“I said I would never do anything illegal, immoral or unethical,” Esper said. “But you’re suggesting you were asked,” Baier cut off. “It was suggested by the president,” Esper replied, “and we were successful in pushing that back. We, being Attorney General Barr, General Milley, myself, and brought it back from that notion.

Trump’s desire for the military to fire on protesters is just one example of his anti-democratic tendencies. Esper went on to cite Trump’s culpability in the Jan. 6 insurrection on Capitol Hill, and his constant lies about the 2020 election as reasons why he now sees his former boss as a threat to American democracy.

“Do you think Donald Trump was a threat to democracy? Bayer asked. “I think given the events of January 6th, given how he undermined the election results, he enticed people to come to DC, agitated them that morning and failed to cancel them,” Esper said, “to me, that threatens our democracy. ‘So yes?’ Baier followed. Esper replied, ‘What else can you conclude, Bret?’

And Esper doesn’t want to see Trump make another run for president in 2024, instead preferring a candidate who won’t be so divisive.

“So do you think he’s going to run for president again?” Bayer asked. “I don’t know. I hope he doesn’t,” Esper said. “other candidates who could run and who could do it without dividing the people, without creating such a tension in the country, and doing by developing the grassroots as well. I think there are candidates who can do that.

Special feature with Bret Baier airs weeknights at 6 p.m. Fox News Channel.

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